'GAYS ARE JUST FINE': TRINITY COLLEGE DUBLIN

The motion before the Trinity College Dublin University Philosophical Society on Thursday 21st October was "This House Believes That The Gay Rights Movement Has Undermined Family Values". Stephen Green proposed the motion with the support of four students, who all spoke well. The opposition speakers were adequate but not inspired.

But when it came to a vote, not one person apart from the proposers could be found to support the motion. Abraham would have as much trouble pleading for this seat of learning, founded by Elizabeth I, as he had trying to find ten righhteous men in Sodom. While Islam targets the universities, academia, both sides of the Irish Sea , is taking a secularist chain-saw to the Christian branch it sits on.

Text of Speech given by Stephen Green:

University Philosophical Society in Trinity College, Dublin.

"This House Believes That The Gay Rights Movement Has Undermined Family Values".

It's a great pleasure and a privilege to be invited to debate at the University Philosophical Society here in Trinity College , Dublin . We have been thoroughly spoilt by your hospitality, which is surely not what the Apostle Paul meant when he told the Colossians:

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. ( Col 2:8)

We shall hear a lot of humanistic vain deceit from the opposition tonight. They will attempt to say that family values are all about love and acceptance, and that gay rights does not undermine those at all.

Well, I've encountered precious little love and acceptance from gay rights aficionados down the years, but I guess the tolerant just can't tolerate intolerance of the tolerance of evil. And they won't accept that some can't accept that some things are just not acceptable.

But in any case, family values go further than love and acceptance, important as those are in any family. Family values include self-respect, self-restraint and self-denial. They include decency, modesty, chastity and fidelity. They carry with them a regard to the future, and a contract with and across the generations.

These are the opposite of the values of homosexuality, which are typified by hedonism, vanity, immorality, an obsessive permissiveness, promiscuity and a destructive individualism. As one honest homosexual wrote: 'Promiscuity is what bonds the homosexual community together.' Most particularly, the lack of procreative ability of a pair of homosexuals typifies their lack of care for the future.

That is partly why Jesus Christ said:

Matt. 19:4 Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh.

And being one flesh is something a pair of homosexual men or women can never do - they lack between them the complementary parts of the body required for true sexual intercourse. They are trying to solve the puzzle with only half the pieces.

I've got news for you - every one of us here is the result of the union of a human egg and a human sperm, and although I haven't checked the medical books recently, they used to say that the human egg comes from a woman and the sperm from a man.

True, you will find lesbians who had children when they were heterosexual - so people can swop around - or who engage the services of a man. In my country a pair of lesbians can now jointly put themselves down as mothers on a child's birth certificate. Can a nation last long which legislates a lie?

In the seventies a generation adopted the values of homosexuality. They decided that virginity was something to be disposed of as quickly as possible, that modesty was inhibiting, that for a woman, carrying a clutch of condoms did not mean you were a tart, that staying faithful did not matter any more.

And look at the United Kingdom today. Around a half of children are not growing up with their natural father. Respect for God and for our neighbour is at rock-bottom. Older people and women go in fear of their lives on many of our estates. A lad will be kicked to death for his mobile phone, or even just for the wrong look. Without a father, teenagers turn to the gang for their identity, young men lack self-discipline, and young women look for love in the arms of whatever boy will have them.

And just look at our culture. Who would have thought just two years and five days ago that a pair of radio presenters would have humiliated an elderly actor with sexual jokes about his grand-daughter. That is what Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross did to Andrew Sachs on 18th October 2008. We are daily growing more brutal, more coarse and more crass as a society.

The Gay Liberation Front of the seventies aimed at the abolition of the family. They hated its values. But at least they were honest. Even today, among those campaigning for gay marriage, you will find those who want to 'transform' it to reflect gay values. They want everyone to have open marriages, because they cannot do fidelity.

Taking various census findings and surveys of homosexual life, The Family Research Council in America found that, even with all the current pressures to have affairs and divorce, around 60% of couples married in the 60s and 70s had been able to celebrate their 20th wedding anniversary. Only 5% of homosexual couples had stayed together that long. 70% of couples married in the 80s were still together after 10 years, a feat achieved by a mere 14% of gays.

85% of married women and 76.5% of married men reported sexual fidelity in a study by McWhirter and Mattison. Only 4.5% of homosexual men could say the same. Other studies note the staggering levels of promiscuity amongst homosexual men. Bell and Weinberg found that 43% of white male homosexuals had sex with 500 or more partners. Paul Van de Ven et al found the same: '"the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101-500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1,000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than one thousand lifetime sexual partners.'

Thank God that there are men and women who have walked away from that lifestyle through the power of the Lord Jesus Christ. There is no sin so big he cannot forgive it, and no life so damaged he cannot transform it. Of course in today's politically-correct world, that kind of healing work is, to borrow from a son of this city, 'The ministry which dare not speak its name.'

McWhirter and Mattison reported that, in a study of 156 males in homosexual relationships lasting from one to thirty-seven years, only seven were monogamous, and 'all couples with a relationship lasting more than five years have incorporated some provision for outside sexual activity in their relationships.' According to McWhirter and Mattison, 'most homosexual men understood sexual relations outside the relationship to be the norm and viewed adopting monogamous standards as an act of oppression.'

'A Canadian study of homosexual men who had been in committed relationships lasting longer than one year found that only 25 percent of those interviewed reported being monogamous. According to study author Barry Adam, "Gay culture allows men to explore different...forms of relationships besides the monogamy coveted by heterosexuals."'

If the Opposition would find some honesty, they would admit that The Gay Rights Movement Has Undermined Family Values and they would celebrate the fact.

But they won't, so they won't. Will you?

(And the answer was 'No, we won't')